Intro

[Seth] They’re still there.

[Bernie] I see them, but I’m trying to follow. Do you see them?

So much of how we experience life depends on how we see life. 

[Bernie] See I want Charlie in the shot, so I’m going to move ….

In photography, for instance, there’s something called the “eye.” If you’ve got it, you see things in a way that other people don’t. 

[Bernie] Look how he’s just dancing around on the sand.

In a moment that might seem ordinary to people, you see something more.

This is Bernie.

[Bernie] That was perfect.

[Seth] That was amazing.

[Bernie] Even if I …

And she’s got the eye.

[Bernie] … I also, again, we talked about letting go. Like I think one of my biggest art forms of living is letting go …. 

She’s got a sense of how light, texture and composition all come together to really capture a moment.

[Bernie] Oh this is, look at how they're standing far apart from each other (camera clicks). There they are, again, I just missed it by a moment. It was timing. But you know what ….

This is the art of photography. To show us the gifts of everyday life, the things most of us don’t see. And there’s a lot we can learn from someone who has this eye. Not so that we can take better pictures on our phone, but how we can begin to see the hidden beauty, the hidden meaning in life that we tend to miss.   

Bernie’s a graphic designer and a photographer. She’s also a parent of two special needs kids. And this artistic eye she has doesn’t just help her make a living, it’s also changed her understanding of herself.

[Bernie] During my biggest, darkest struggle, was I truly thought the kids would be better with someone else, not me.  

And it’s changed the way she sees the people closest to her.

[Bernie] And I wanna raise a toast to Frank and Charlie for teaching me a lesson that I would have never learned without them in my life.

 On this episode of the podcast, Look. What does it take to really see?

Stay tuned to hear from Bernie.

I’m Seth Dickson and this is Soul Search.

Act 1 - Photography

So the other thing about Bernie, she’s my sister-in-law, married to my brother Craig. And that’s really only relevant here because I did know something about her story coming into making this episode. Which of course, is why I asked her to be on it. 

In the process of making it, though, in really listening to her talk about this story I thought I knew. I started to, well, see her differently. But it’s one of those things where you can’t quite pin down exactly what it is that’s changed, it’s just that something’s sort of broken through the familiar surface of life and said to you, “Hey, there’s way more down here.”

I went to Santa Ana for a day, where Bernie lives, to talk photography and capture a bit of her life. Photography is not just something she does, it’s a way of being in the world. Now that might sound strange, but it’s really how her approach to photography spills over into her daily life.

I wound up sort of following her and her boys, Frank and Charlie, around. We started off heading out to Newport Beach. If you’re going to Southern California you might as well hit up the beach, right? There’s a spot Bernie knows about that’s quiet, away from the crowds. So we piled in the van with our beach gear - a whole wagon full of stuff - and took a drive out there. 

[Bernie] Is it cool to record in the car? Is it too loud?

[Seth] Record what?

[Bernie] Record. Like that.

[Seth] This is ambiance.

[Bernie] Oh, great.

[Seth] This is ambiance.  

[Bernie] Oh yeah. That’s okay. Yeah. No I’m just saying is it, like, too loud or are we okay?

[Seth] We’re good. Just normal life.

[Bernie] Normal life? Okay. You guys ready?

Thinking about that phrase now: “normal life.” It really wasn’t a really good one to use. When you have special needs kids, “normal” is what the rest of the world sees your kids as not fitting into. It’s a category used for judgment.

[Bernie] What do you want to do at the beach? You want to dig a hole?

And what I learned about seeing from Bernie, is that judgment is the first thing you have to see through.

Bernie got into photography back when she was a kid. Her dad was working for the Anaheim police and he came across some old rolls of black and white film at the department. He decided it might be fun to develop them himself, so he got some used equipment and set up a dark room in their bathroom at home. And he would make the prints, mat them, and then hang them in the police department. Set up a kind of art gallery right there in the office.

[Bernie] He was like their museum curator of history. And I remember he would go get, like, lock himself in the bathroom and he taught me how to do it. And I just was so fascinated with the process of it. I didn't realize it was so simple but also so complicated. 

Just the idea of photography is really just light and dark. You know? I think working with those two contrasts and just understanding how light works, it just, it makes the way you see the world a little bit more, I don’t know simple? You know, knowing that you can capture it with just a simple tool. 

Like the pinhole camera is the first thing that I learned how film works and it's just time and light. It's learning like how do you expose a picture? How do you see something and how do you capture that moment? And it's really just a hole and light.

[Seth] Simple.

[Bernie] Simple.

[Seth] Simple.

[Bernie] We overcomplicate things too much. So I have this thing in my pocket all the time that can capture any moment, but I think we shoot, sometimes, too many images. It's about, going back to film, it's about slowing down, you know, and taking a photo intentionally. You only get one, you know, I have a roll of 24 pictures. I can't just guess, you know.  

[Seth] Can't just take 500 and delete 400 of them. Right?

[Bernie] Exactly. Right?

[Seth] Yeah. Well, that's what I do.

The truth is if I take 500 pictures on my phone I might delete closer to 480 of them. As Bernie was talking, I was starting to see how this is essentially a consumer mindset. You just accumulate a bunch of stuff you don’t really need, you’ll probably never use and end up throwing away most of it. 

The thing here is that with this mindset, there’s no real relationship between you and the pictures. They’re just “stuff.” But for Bernie, someone who’s got the photographer’s eye, photos aren’t just “stuff.” By slowing down and being present to the moment, she’s able to see what’s really there.

[Bernie] Who displays a hundred photos? You just need that one.

[Seth] Nobody.

[Bernie] Right? It's just that one moment. You have to … 

[Seth] How do you find the moment though? What are you, what are you looking for?

[Bernie] How do I find the moment?

[Seth] Yeah.

[Bernie] I'm looking for a moment of, like, clarity and presence. Like when I take headshots of people for work, I always hear people say the worst things about themselves. And it's funny because that's the first thing that comes outta their mouth is, “I hate taking pictures of myself.” Like you're beautiful. You have amazing curly red hair. You know, I'm seeing them for, like, their uniqueness and their beauty. So I feel in that job, in that moment, when it's my job to get a photograph of them, I'm trying to find them at their most relaxed, that represents who they are and try to show them what I see. Cuz they look different in their own eyes than they look in my eyes.

We get off the freeway and pull into town. The sun’s now almost overhead. It’s getting hotter and the traffic is starting to build up. The streets and the sidewalks are full. It’s the last week of summer, so there’s lots of families in cars and people riding bikes. 

I see nothing but congestion and wonder how long it’s going to take to find parking. But Bernie, she starts talking about how she might photograph the traffic to show that it’s interesting and unique. “I don’t only want to capture beautiful things,” she says. “I want to remember all of it. Our experience is layered.” 

She comments on how, just ahead, the palm trees and the signal lights line up together. There’s this dance of symmetry and contrast she sees with them. Nature and a manmade steel pole both standing up against the blue sky. It’s saying something to Bernie. It’s almost like the moment gives her a feeling that she wants to tell through a photo.

We inch our way in a few blocks more. As we get closer to the beach there’s more people showing skin. Lots of skin, actually. 

[Bernie] Welcome to Newport Beach. See, it's also, here's what I also like about photography, is it challenges me to see things without judgment. I used to look at, you know, we just passed by like two blonde girls in bikinis that look very Newport. Right? And I grew up in Orange County and I had judgment about who the people were that lived here and not feeling like I fit in. And, you know, I would, certain things I would see and be like, oh, I don't wanna look at that. You know?

But now I'm like, what's, what would be a great way to just capture that moment without judgment in like an objective way. You know?  Just to show like, if I got put on a job, like go capture 30 photos of Newport beach that shows what Newport Beach is about, without like exposing it or showing judgment through those images. You know? How do you do that? It's like the photojournalism of just capturing what it is. It helps me practice just seeing, instead of judging.

[Seth] Is that something that you learned? Seeing, not judging?

[Bernie] I think it’s an evolution of just life. Right? I mean, I used to have more judgment on the things around me and then I had the boys and they've taught me really how to let go of judgment of myself and others and like, accept who we are and, you know, you're not gonna make everyone happy. And then going into, like, social situations sometimes with expectations of certain behaviors, is out of my control. You know, I can only control myself. 

They're gonna do things maybe that are out of the ordinary and people might have judgment and that's fine. I can't control that, but the best way I can combat that and not feel overwhelmed or feel like, you know, we're different or we don't fit in is to stop judging myself. Right? Like looking at myself that way. And then that changes how I look at the world around me. So it's kind of like a constant exercise. 

It's hard to let that go, but the longer I do it and the more I practice it, the better I get at it. And it's, it's liberating to let go of it. I mean, I'm not to say I don't care what people think, but, enough to get through this life, but enough to also let a lot of things go that I don't have control over. So, I think it's gotten brought into my photography just through the practice and the artfulness of parenting. 

[Seth] Parenting. 

[Bernie] The messiness of parenting, too. Right?

[Seth] Oh, it's messy?

[Bernie] It's oh, no, it's so easy. 

[Seth] Oh really? 

[Bernie] It’s great. It's perfect.

We found a parking space in this quiet neighborhood just a block from the beach. It’s got lots of carefully maintained houses with green lawns. Which given there’s a drought in California, seems a bit odd. But, as I learned, this is a very wealthy community. 

Frank bolts out of the car and runs to the beach. And Charlie is a bit, well, disappointed that we didn’t bring the right swimsuit for him. Bernie, though, handles the complaint like a pro. She’s calm and empathetic. She sees him, not the protest. It’s the art of parenting.

But it’s not easy and it never has been. It’s definitely something she’s had to learn how to do. In fact, it’s been quite a journey for her and her husband Craig. Both Frank, who’s 11, and Charlie, who’s 9, have been diagnosed with autism. And nearly the last decade has been a continual process of accepting life as it is and of seeing past what’s considered to be normal or typical. It’s been hard, there have been lots of tears, but as Bernie said, “it’s been liberating to let go.”  

[Bernie] Did I miss him?

[Seth] They’re still there.

We did find the right beach. It’s not crowded. And there’s a gentle breeze coming off the ocean, so it’s not hot at all. And the colors. They’re vivid. Bright yellow sand. Deep ocean blue. There’s a red sailboat moving gracefully way out in the distance. It looks like a toy. 

We sit down on a towel and watch the kids look for hermit crabs in the sand. It’s a moment where the anxieties of life kind of melt away, and you can’t help but feel opened up to the world.

[Bernie] That's another thing, right? Is just looking for, looking for confirmation that there's something more than just the material plane. 

[Seth] Yeah. 

[Bernie] You know. Cuz it's, it has to be more, we can feel it. And sometimes I think …  Can, can you use your words, bud? 

Charlie walks over and grabs a treat but can’t unwrap it, so he hands it to Bernie.  

[Bernie] Yes! I can open this for you. Okay. Come here. And you just ran away. What do you think he'd do if I ate it right now? When he came back, “I thought you were giving it to me!”

[Seth] Tears? Tears?

[Bernie] How hard do you wanna hear a child cry? Hey you, what do you say?

[Charlie] Thanks.

[Bernie] You're welcome.

[Seth] You were saying? Below the surface? 

[Bernie] Oh, yes. Well, I think it's hard to put words or images to, right? I think I'm always looking for something more. I'm always looking for meaning. I'm always wanting confirmation that there's more than just what we see and touch. It's what we feel, but how do you capture in pictures an emotion? Right?

[Seth] Yeah. 

[Bernie] And that's timing. And subject. Again, it's, there's a lot of things at play. It's hard to talk about, cuz I actually don't think about it. It's intuitive. 

[Seth] It's intuitive for you. 

[Bernie] I just do it, but I know there's thought behind it and intention and knowledge, cuz I wanna get better at doing what I'm doing.

[Seth] Right. 

[Bernie] But I also don't think, I just am in the moment.

Bernie takes out an old camera she got her hands on. It uses only film and has a fixed lens, meaning it can’t zoom in or out. If you want a close-up of something, you have to move in there and be present.

[Bernie] So it makes you engage in the space that you're in.

[Seth] Mm-hmm.

[Bernie] So I have a shot right now. See, I love Charlie. Well, I'm shooting with black and white, so I'll probably get my phone. Cuz I really like his colors that he's wearing. 

[Seth] Yeah. 

[Bernie] The, the orange and the red and the composition against the blue is just like it pops. And he's so cute and little, his little, like just his little silhouette is cute in the space. I like the way he moves and he's always moving. So when I photograph Charlie, I like getting into a space that has a nice composition, there's balance. 

And then just getting him in that moment, but I typically have to get up, like, I don't take pictures pretty much from my seat, cuz they're always moving. It's rare. I'm gonna get a shot that's good. Just for, oh, look at the dolphin! Frankie! Oh, look at the dolphin! Do you see him? 

[Seth] Yeah. 

[Bernie] Look, there’s two! It’s like you and Charlie! 

[Seth] There's two! 

[Bernie] Oh my goodness! … 

Act 2 - Resistance

After wrapping up at the beach, we took a short drive over the Balboa Fun Zone, a cute little amusement park complete with a ferris wheel, which Frank’s apparently a big fan of. 

[Bernie] Can I get four?

Bernie buys tickets and then I stepped right in line without pausing to think about whether or not the height would bother me. 

[Bernie] Here’s your tickets.

 It hadn’t much in the past, but it’s been a couple of decades since I’d been on one. 

[Bernie] Alright. Let’s do it. Ready to go ride the ferris wheel?

I sit down on the seat next to Frank, get strapped in and suddenly feel a bit, well, vulnerable.

[Seth] I think I'm a little afraid of heights. 

[Frank] Heights?

[Seth] Yeah. What would you tell me if I'm afraid?

[Frank] You’ll be afraid when you look down? 

[Seth] Aah, don't look down, maybe? Maybe I'll just look straight ahead. Whoa! 

[Frank] Whoa!

As we shoot up, I take my eyes off the ground and look over at Frank. He’s leaning forward, smiling, and looking straight down, like past his feet and straight down. But I can’t bear to see exactly what he’s looking at. Then he shifts to the side of our seat, still smiling and looking down. He’s not bothered at all with the height and completely absorbed in the moment. Like, he’s as free as a bird, which somehow calms my nerves. 

[Seth] Is this fun for you? 

[Frank] Yes. Yes, it is.

[Seth] Yes, it is fun? Me too. I'm having fun with you. It's a good time. 

[Frank] Yes.

[Seth] I'm not quite as scared because I see that you're having fun. 

[Frank] I know.

We go around and around for a while, like 10 minutes. The whole time I’m thinking that this has got to be the longest ride ever. Towards the end, Frank spots Bernie and Charlie in another seat, almost directly across the wheel from us. When we’re at the top, they’re near the bottom, and vice versa. He’s leaning back and forth, his head swiveling around as he follows them. “Hi!” he shouts out to them. Bernie shouts back, “Hi! I love you!”

[Frank] Hi mommy! I love you too!

As we swing back down to the bottom again, we’re told the ride’s just about over.

[Seth] One more time around, Frank.

[Frank] Mommy, I love you too! Hi!

[Seth] Frank, this has been fun being on the ferris wheel with you. Thank you. I had a good time.

[Ride Operator] What did you think guys? Did you have a good time?

[Seth] That was fun.

[Ride Operator] Excellent.

[Seth] That was very fun. Thank you so much.

[Ride Operator] You're welcome. Let’s get you untangled there.

[Seth] Alright.

[Ride Operator] You guys take your time getting out. There is no hurry at all.

Frank was diagnosed with autism when he was 5. Back when he was just 18 months, Bernie and Craig started to notice that something was off. So the diagnosis, while hard, wasn’t exactly surprising. But then, just a year after Frank was diagnosed, so was Charlie. That one caught them off guard. Up to that point, they thought he was just speech delayed, so it was a tough pill to swallow. 

[Bernie] These little cuties. I know these guys.

Later that day, I took a walk with Bernie through her neighborhood. It’s a modest place, definitely not Newport Beach manicured. Some lawns here are actually yellow. But it’s got its own kind of life. There’s lots of families with small kids living here. People are out walking their dogs and riding bikes, saying “Hi.” There’s a real sense of community to it. And it’s a place where Bernie and Craig have found support and feel known.

[Bernie] This is my brother-in-law, Seth, by the way.

[Seth] Hi.

We started talking about that time back in 2017, right after Charlie’s diagnosis, when all the soul searching began for Bernie. Two kids with special needs. It’s a lot to wrap your head around. And there was one thing she was really stuck on.

[Bernie] The idea that something's wrong with them or that mom guilt, that I did something to create this. Or maybe I didn't take care of myself well enough when I was pregnant. Everything's always on the mom, like did you breastfeed long enough, did you sleep train them? Did you drink enough water when you were pregnant? Everything. So when, there's so much pressure on being, on carrying the baby. And then the baby comes out different, it's like, well, what did you do? 

[Seth] Yeah.

[Bernie] You must have done something wrong because something’s wrong. Not different. Not a gift. Not beautiful. 

[Seth] Those weren't words that were …

[Bernie] Those were not words. It was like, what's wrong with him? Why is he acting that way? There's something wrong with him. Why is he different? 

The idea that something’s “wrong” and that if they could only “fix” the autism problem, then the real Frank and Charlie would emerge, this was the battle. Because it was about how they saw their kids. Craig said that, “When you first learn your kids are atypical, even though you’re prepared to accept and celebrate their differences, there’s still a part of you searching for a roadmap to the real child, the one that is like you, to bring you closer together.”   

So what they were hoping for was something they could recognize as “normal” underneath the shell of autism that they saw everyday. But what they found is that the harder they pushed on the shell, the harder they tried to crack it, through interventions or in hoping for a cure, the further the gap between them and their sons became. And it brought Bernie to a dark place, where she truly thought her kids would be better with someone else.

[Bernie] Everyone says, this is like my worst, most cliche comment is, “God gives you what you can handle.” And I'm like, yeah? You get stronger because of what you’re given. I don't think I was capable to handle this. I had to be able to handle and everyone, oh, you're a superhero or what a great mom you are. I don't have another choice. I can either stick around and do what’s best …

[Seth] Or bail.

[Bernie] Or like, yeah, or bail. I have two options. There’s no in between, right? I can't just, like, sit around and be mediocre, cuz that's just not gonna be okay for anyone.

[Seth] Hmmm. 

[Bernie] So, I don't think I thought I was capable of it. And I thought everyone was being, superly, like, overly nice. And like, “You're fine.” 

[Seth] Yeah. 

[Bernie]“You're strong.”  But like, oh my gosh, you're not, you can't handle this. You know, it was my own personal judgment. So I was internally, my internal dialogue was constantly questioning my ability to be an advocate for the two boys I had. And I didn't think I was good enough for it. I didn't think they were gonna have a good positive outcome. 

[Seth] Mm-hmm

[Bernie] Because I wasn't strong enough.

In the wilderness of confusion, of feeling alone and incapable, Bernie found some people that walked with her. Or maybe it’s better to say that people found her. There was an inclusive school that really fit the boys’ needs and a new therapist and a new neurologist they felt a strong connection with. And for a while there was a church community, too. None of this was about “fixing” anything. It was about support. 

Bernie got a life coach, she set goals and put the work in. Eventually she became less fearful and started to see a path forward, accepting challenges as they came up along the way. It was not a road to perfect though, but a road to acceptance.

Sometimes in life there comes a moment of clarity. Sure, you can do your work to become more functional but then there’s some assisting force out there that helps you go further than your willpower alone can ever take you. It reminds you that there’s more to life than what you can see. It’s called grace. The work you put in could set you up to receive it. Or it could be that it flashes into your life spontaneously. We’ll never know exactly how or why a moment like lines up, it’s better left a divine mystery. All we need to be sure of is that it’s real.  

[Bernie] So I did a spin class that a friend invited me to, you know, it was a very inspirational spin, like exercise class. You know, it's one of those, like, spiritual journeys where you're sweating and you're thinking, and you're trying to let go.

One of the questions was, you know, what does it mean to believe in something bigger? And then she was coaching everybody saying, you know, “What are you struggling with?” 

[Seth] In the class? 

[Bernie] In this class. Like, what is it that you need to push past? What is it that you, you can't, you can't get through and that you need to. And it was a dark room and I pushed myself super hard and I just had this crazy quick vision of Frankie. And it was like him, standing at the top of a hill. Cuz I was, like, pushing myself on a bike to get there. So I was like, what do I need to see to get me to push myself further. And it was him, just like playing in, like, a white shirt and blue shorts, just standing there.

And then I, this is my strange epiphany, and I think I spoke about this earlier. Like you see what you need to see when you need to see it. So whether it's relevant or not to other people, this was what I needed to see at the moment. To have faith and believe in this bigger spiritual journey.

So to believe in a story of something bigger than me, I had a vision of my son who I thought, you know, was actually my biggest challenge in life who had medical problems and who I struggle with, like behaviorally, to that's a son of God, right? Like whoever Jesus is supposed to be, I see Frankie.

To me, the truth of spirituality and like a soul encompassing, true spirituality is the boys that I have, you know, because they have no societal barriers blocking them from that deep spiritual connection. And they're raw and they're beautiful and they're hard, but they are pure. And that was the moment of clarity, of acceptance, of realizing, that I was given this gift of a kid that is encompassing all of this beauty and I'm looking at it as a challenge when in actuality, that's what people are talking about when they talk about the story of God or the son of God.

There’s a story in the Gospels about Jesus taking his three closest disciples up to a mountain. And there, right before their eyes, Jesus is transfigured into a glorious radiant being. His clothes become dazzling white. And there’s a voice from heaven that comes down saying, “This is my Son.”

Now whether or not this actually happened isn’t quite the point here. Because however you come down on it, the story is quite a beautiful metaphor for what happens when we really see. A veil is lifted.  What we thought we saw in something or someone falls away. And what’s revealed is their essence. Their own deep, inner truth.

The gift in this encounter, is that you see something in yourself that you couldn’t see before. You see how your expectations of someone, or your fears of them, or what you’ve come to think about them, have closed you off to their truth. And what’s beneath the shell of expectations and fear and hurt is the fragile but radiant beauty of life that connects us all.

And this is what the art of photography is about. Revealing what’s below the surface, hidden, but there nonetheless. Revealing “the more” of a moment. “The more” of life.  Can we slow down and be present, so we can see what’s actually there? Because sometimes, on the other side of what we resist, what we don’t want to see, is the acceptance we need to come to in order to be free. 

 Act 3 - Acceptance

[Bernie] It really is just that. It’s grieving the expectation but then accepting what you have, right? Those are, like, two different phases of  ….

There is a point where photography and Bernie’s path to acceptance came together. Call it another grace. It was during the pandemic, right in the middle of shelter in place. The whole world was adjusting to a new reality, going through its own acceptance of things. 

[Bernie] I just was watching everyone around us, just like, kind of grieving their normalcy and their life. And while it was very challenging and hard for us, I also was fine with it. Cuz we had already experienced the loss of whatever expectations we had on life. So Craig and I kind of, we adjusted mentally pretty quickly cuz we were like, oh this is what life is, special needs parents is, just kind of pivoting all the time.  And like what normalcy? We don't have normalcy anyways, nothing's ever normal in our life. So we're just, it was kind of a, we felt like we had stronger muscles in that, in exercising, you know, the movement of acceptance through the pandemic. 

And that kind of woke me up a little bit to be more curious about how I can take that energy and keep my creativity alive through exploration with photography. And, you know, I started taking pictures of our life, our home life, throughout the beginning of the stay at home orders for, I think I did like a 50 or 55 day photo essay, just for my personal, just to keep me going and motivated.

And through that, I learned a lot about, um, how I see the boys and how I experience, like if I'm representing our life accurately, visually. That was just the goal was to kind of take moments that I'm seeing that feel beautiful, but capture the emotion of what it felt like to be home. Just the four of us without any services or school or support or while we're working and they're trying to do school. 

And that, that again, kind of took me into another level of acceptance, of the whole world kind of accepting where we were at. And then realizing in close quarters, this is who I'm, these are, this is our family. This is who we are. 

How can I enjoy it and not manipulate it to look a certain way? Cuz I think also with photography, you know, a lot of people like you set up, you set the stage, it's capturing a performance sometimes. You know what I mean? Going back to like wedding photography. It's like, okay, let me pose everybody. You stand here, you stand here. This is how I want everyone to be and we're gonna make this look a certain way and we want it balanced and kind of doing the opposite of that.

And like, how do I find beauty in the, uh, organic world or organic life that we have, in the mess? You know? How do we make it, the mess, seem more acceptable and more beautiful for other people to understand, you know? To communicate like, yes, it's different, and it might seem, you know, out of the ordinary for other people, but this is our life and this is how we see it. And if maybe you can take a peak inside of what we see and find beauty and connection in it too.

You know, it's not that different from other people. It's like intimate imagery of the insides of our house and how we work and emotions and grief and joy and, you know, exploration. I don’t know if that makes sense. That’s, I think I'm always kind of moving through different phases of acceptance though. It's never, like, I mastered it. It's a constant work in practice you know? 

[Seth] What were the, some of the things you learned to accept or see in your kids during that time? Was there something that you became aware of, that was revealed to you? Was there a deeper sense of who they are? 

[Bernie] Yeah, I think the acceptance of, like, expectations, that we can't place too much pressure on them. Cuz the more we push the further it pushes them away and, like, they shut down. So, you know, for example, just kind of taking control over what and feeling them intuitively a little bit more on what brings them joy or makes them feel safe.

It was more about, like, boundaries and thresholds, like how far can we push them before it's too far? And then they shut down. We want them to continue,  think with the education specifically, we want them to continue to learn. We wanna give them learning environments, but that got taken away from us. Right?

Like we were all about inclusive education and that inclusive school disappeared for a little bit. Cuz we were all at home. So then it was, like, well I want them on Zoom, but Zoom that's the whole, that's the opposite of what we're trying to do here, you know? And they don't like being on screens like that.

And that was crazy hard for them. So then feeling like we lost our community, cuz they would barely even go, they weren't motivated to go to Zoom school. And I think just moving through that acceptance of like, okay, we're not gonna force this on them cuz they're not gonna get out of it what they would get out of it at school.

So instead of waking them up and fighting with them every day for, like, hours, like, “Hey, look at the screen, you're on Zoom, get on Zoom,” while we're trying to work. Just really listening to them and like, Hey, what's the minimum they can do while still keeping them somewhat involved and then giving them other opportunities to grow and kind of, you know, sculpting that around them.

I think that was a big lesson for sure of, like, let's just have them sign in and say, “Hello, good morning,” and then close the computer. Cuz, who cares, you know? This is where, again, acceptance and letting go. Like that's not worth the fight, cuz they're not gonna get anything out of it, if they're just, like, screaming the whole time trying to be on Zoom. 

And then we're not getting work done cuz we're trying to force them to sit on Zoom. No one's learning. There's no learning happening. You know, I've definitely a firm believer in, you can't learn if you don't feel safe. You need to cultivate a safe environment and a safe culture in order to grow and learn. And if you're in fight or flight or freeze mode, then you're not taking in any information.

And that was every morning was like, fight, fight, fight. You know, I don't wanna do this. So really learning how to listen to them and being like, hey, they, they can have agency over this too. You know, let's, let's see what they wanna do. It's not just not doing anything, but it's giving more options and being more tuned in to the way that they individually learn versus what everyone else is doing. It's hard cuz you know, everyone was sharing that same experience.

[Seth] And you decided to, or somehow the idea came to you, to do an art exhibit from these pictures that you took. This photo essay. 

[Bernie] We decided to do an art exhibit because we actually did a photo book first. But this was a friend of mine, her name's Lindsay. She's a creative director at a company I used to work with and she had been seeing my pictures I was sharing, cuz I was doing that photo essay on Instagram. She was like, “You know what, I think the images you took have a story to tell.”  

But I had like hundreds of pictures I gave her and the ones that she pulled out in the series and the way that she put them, told a story of the beauty and the struggle and the joy and the calm and the chaos that we had in our life. I, you know, it was, takes someone else sometimes to show you what you have. Like, she almost had to take it and edit it for me, cuz I don't think I could have done it.  

I asked her if she wanted words in there or what she was looking for. So I took some of my favorite quotes. There's a poem called “Welcome to Holland” that this woman, Emily Peril Kingsley wrote. So the analogy is that you're, for parenting, that you're getting on a plane and you're going to Italy and you have all these plans to go to Italy and see the museums and taste the food. And you're playing unexpectedly lands in Holland and you learn that you're never going to Italy and you can never ever get there. And that just can't be a place that you're ever gonna go. 

And it's about, um, the beauty in Holland though. You know, just because it's not Italy doesn't mean it's not beautiful and that there's Rembrandts there and you can see the flowers and it's a beautiful country. It just moves at a different pace and a lot of parents in the special needs community love that because it's called Welcome to Holland. So it is about leaning into the, what you have and where you're at.

So I asked her permission to use the poem in our book. And she, and I was like, what, you know, what's the copyright? Do we even have to pay a fee to license it?  And she was like, as long as you give me a copy, you can use it. And she gave us the rights. That, like, gave agency. It made me realize like, oh, this could be something kind of powerful that we're doing. If we have this poem in here and some quotes and Lindsay gave me the layout when she finished and I was like, touched. It moved me. 

And she was like, you should name it. And then, you know, I kept coming back to the word acceptance. Like it just reminds me that I need to accept all the time of things I cannot change, you know? So we just named it that, and then from that moment we just decided to print books and we're like, maybe we can sell these and they could be art, coffee, table, art books, and all the proceeds can go into a fund for, like, the kid's future so they can be independent with whatever they end up doing with their life.

So we sold their artwork because the boys both liked doing a lot of art. And then that turned into, ee should have some large scale photos just to really have the whole event, come to life and be a space that you can walk into and actually feel it. 

One of my friends, Amanda, she leaned in and was like, I can cater it. And then everybody, you know, my friend Rachel was like, I can help organize it. Everyone just started, like, our friend's husband, I can DJ it. Just, everyone started leaning in without even it being forced. It really kind of naturally came together and was so beautiful that it, that that moment showed me, okay, well, even if no one comes, we already have a really strong core of people who actually care and love them. And are part of this community that's gonna help them thrive because they care about who they are as people. And they don't see them as a burden or different or weird. They just see them as them and they already love them and accept them.

And it just showed me what a strong community we have. I mean that, like, people really do make things happen and that's what it's all about. And so in our, in our path of acceptance, we also cultivated the very thing that would combat my biggest fear, which is community and people who already have grown to accept them and love them. 

To have everyone show up in support I felt the love wrapped around my soul from everybody who showed up. it just comforted me. And again, leaned into how acceptance is such a key part of it. And this alone brought so many people together. So this must be the right direction we should be moving in. If, you know, we can get this many people out here and aligned with the same message, it's it's inspiring. Gives me hope in a world of grief, you know, we need that to keep going forward.

[Seth] You're really trying to combat a few things, but the stereotype of how people see kids with special needs. 

[Bernie] Yeah. Yeah. 

[Seth] What is it that, what is it that you hope people see?

[Bernie] My hope is to change the way people see people who are different than them. I want them to see them as fellow human beings versus, you know, someone that's not good enough or something that scares them because their behavior's different. I wanna show them that this is just who they are and it's okay. And you don't have to like it either, but you don't have to reject them.

It’s also showing people how to accept something they can't control. No, I, that's a good, that's a really good question. I guess I'm not really aware that I'm trying to get people to see things differently, but I, I really am, especially through photography, you know? I mean just through sharing photos of our everyday life, I just, I like capturing it cuz it gives people insight onto who they are as people.

[Seth] You wanna show people what you see in them.

[Bernie] Yeah, there it is. Yeah. That's, yes. I wanna share my vision of how I can see the beauty in them, because if they can see the beauty I see, then that gives me hope because then I feel that could change how everyone sees something that maybe they were once afraid of. 

Just as using that, as you know, just as a stepping stone. You don't understand it and it's something that you judged or you had a preconceived notion about who they were or what autism looks like, because it looks different in everybody. And then you see, like, a connection to that somehow. Because I'm able to, because I genuinely see it that way. So it's gonna come out in my pictures or what I do in life or my actions. Then it's, it's hopeful. I'm trying to, it's, it's all around hope.

I was there that night for the art exhibit, along with about 150 other friends and family. And what was so moving to me was that it was the first social gathering for just about everyone who came. The shelter in place orders were loosening. People were just glad to be in the same room with other people, people close to them, they hadn’t seen in the flesh in a while.  

Towards the end of that beautiful night, there was another one of those moments. The DJ stopped the music and people gathered around to hear from Bernie and Craig. Craig got up first.

[Craig] The show's called acceptance. And, you know, there's the, the meaning of this word has changed a lot for me this past year. Um, because acceptance is, you know, usually just something you like, you accept negative circumstances. Like I accept that it rained on my vacation. You know, I accept it that I'm not gonna be on Saturday Night Live. (Laughter). I accept that I am not gonna be the starting forward for the Lakers or whatever.

But, um, that's not what we do with people that we love. We don't just, you know, accept them and then kind of turn our back. This acceptance is about celebrating the person. Celebrating ourselves, just the, the way God makes us. And to say, you know, we belong in this world. We deserve to be included in this world for the value that we have to offer to the world.

And, um, there is one person that I want to thank. There is one person I want to single out. Um. The person I want to thank is Bernie. Like she knew that the way out of this was to, to bring it out to the world and not just keep it in our own house. And, and I'm, I'm grateful for that, for you, forever and grateful to all of you for answering. 

[Bernie]  You know, the fear of special needs parenting is, what are my kids gonna do when we go. And that's dark but I know we all think that as a parent, but it's a little different when you have two. And through this experience, we've seen through, through all of you. We're not alone. The boys are loved. They're gonna be okay because of all of you.

I wanna give a shout out to my neurologist Dr. Cobo. (Crowd cheers.)

You changed our life. We’ve been looking for you for ten years and we found you. So thank you. Our doctor is here. (Laughter).

So everybody please raise a glass.  I wanna say thank you. I wanna make a toast to you all. And I wanna raise a toast to Frank and Charlie for teaching me a lesson that I would have never learned without them in my life. So here, here! To Frank and Charlie, Enjoy, have fun, drink and we love you all. Thank you. 

[Crowd] Yay!

Coda

I am often asked to describe the experience of raising a child with a disability - to try to help people who have not shared that unique experience to understand it, to imagine how it would feel. It's like this......

When you're going to have a baby, it's like planning a fabulous vacation trip - to Italy. You buy a bunch of guide books and make your wonderful plans. The Coliseum. The Michelangelo David. The gondolas in Venice. You may learn some handy phrases in Italian. It's all very exciting.

After months of eager anticipation, the day finally arrives. You pack your bags and off you go. Several hours later, the plane lands. The stewardess comes in and says, "Welcome to Holland."

"Holland?!?" you say. "What do you mean Holland?? I signed up for Italy! I'm supposed to be in Italy. All my life I've dreamed of going to Italy."

But there's been a change in the flight plan. They've landed in Holland and there you must stay.

The important thing is that they haven't taken you to a horrible, disgusting, filthy place, full of pestilence, famine and disease. It's just a different place.

So you must go out and buy new guide books. And you must learn a whole new language. And you will meet a whole new group of people you would never have met.

It's just a different place. It's slower-paced than Italy, less flashy than Italy. But after you've been there for a while and you catch your breath, you look around.... and you begin to notice that Holland has windmills....and Holland has tulips. Holland even has Rembrandts.

But everyone you know is busy coming and going from Italy... and they're all bragging about what a wonderful time they had there. And for the rest of your life, you will say "Yes, that's where I was supposed to go. That's what I had planned."

And the pain of that will never, ever, ever, ever go away... because the loss of that dream is a very very significant loss.

But... if you spend your life mourning the fact that you didn't get to Italy, you may never be free to enjoy the very special, the very lovely things ... about Holland.

 Credits

This episode of the Soul Search podcast was written and produced by me, Seth Dickson. And is dedicated to Frank and Charlie Dickson, love you guys. 

Special thanks, of course, to Bernie Dickson. There’s a link in the show notes to learn more about the Acceptance Exhibit, including lots of amazing photos from that night. 

Thanks as well to my brother Craig, for his reading of Welcome to Holland.

Music credits for this episode are in the show notes.

Audio engineering help was by Lenny B. Thanks Lenny.

And finally, thanks to you for listening. Soul Search is dedicated to your spiritual growth. Be sure to check out our website thesoulsearch.org to find resources, including individual coaching, you can put to use in your journey to authentic living.

See you next time.